There are plenty of nice free and commercial VST plugins available only for Win. As probably most of you already know, they might be used in your OS X DAW with Wine (JackWASIO, VFX). Or with a virtual machine (VirtualBox, Fusion). Or a networked Win machine.. I've thoroughly tested every single one of these options only to end in disappointment. Initially this post was all about painstakingly setting up a wrapper called wacvst.
But instead of refining and updating the wacvst post as intended, I finally came to a more decent conclusion. Actually bringing back a three years old idea of mine and improving it so I can share it with you, would be the only way to go in using the smoothest and easiest to setup method of having Win VST plugins in the mix as well.
Prepared and tested on a fresh 10.6.8 install. It should work with Lion and ML as well but functionality with 10.7.x/10.8.x needs to be confirmed by users first, so any Lion/ML related issues are not the subject of this post. Please take note that functionality with various DAWs is also something I won't cover and discuss apart from generic guidelines. It should work with any DAW and it's up to you how you set it up. And I won't discuss any stuff that's already covered in this tutorial so please read it thoroughly before asking any questions.
Patience is your best friend. In reading thoroughly that is, not in the actual time it takes to set this up which shouldn't be more than half an hour at most. So what might look confusing at first will reveal itself to you as you go along as being easy as pie and I'm confident you will be happy with the outcome. Let's get started:
plugwire (my Wineskin setup including the energyXT 1.4.1 VST plugin demo)
AudioPort Universal (AudioPort AU plugin and AudioPort Host, download the trial)
Wormhole2 (Wormhole2 AU plugin, download the osx binaries)
Juce Plug-in Host (AU host to quickly test plugwire, download PluginHost.dmg)
quicktest (to quickly load in Juce Plug-in Host)
Double-click to unpack AudioPort Universal, then unpack AudioPort Plug-in Setup MAC and install it. Unpack Wormhole2 and put Wormhole2.component in /Library/Audio/Plug-Ins/Components.
Mount plugwire.dmg and drag the plugwire folder to Applications. Start the plugwire app then click Install Software/Choose Setup Executable and choose the AudioPort Host msi package. Install it, click OK in the Choose Executable window that pops up then Quit.
Quick test in Juce Plug-in Host:
Start plugwire and enter the key provided with the AudioPort Universal package. AudioPort Host should now be running.
Mount PluginHost.dmg and drag to Applications. Start PluginHost, go to "Options/Change the audio device settings" to configure your audio, then scan your AU plugins as shown on the left. Besides the default Apple AU plugins and others you might have installed, Wormhole and AudioPort should show up in the list.File/Open plugwire.filtergraph provided in quicktest.zip, double-click on AUAudioFilePlayer module, load some audio file, check Loop, click the Play button and leave that window open.
Double-click on both AudioPort modules and click Connect. You should be connected now to AudioPort Host and in the AudioPort Host window the "File/Open recent file" option should be available, load the default plugwire project then double-click on the energyXT module.
You should hear now your audio file and on the second channel you can also play some keys along with it if you have a controller active. If not, just focus on the Juce Plug-in Host window and play some keys on your computer keyboard.
Now for the most important part, using Win VST plugins, just click on the "1" button to load them as you see on the right.Before getting to the real business of using plugwire with your DAW, I strongly suggest to try to understand how this whole setup works based on the quick demonstration with Juce Plug-in Host. You can close now plugwire from the plugwire menu on the top left of your screen: plugwire/Quit.
Installing plugins:
In the plugwire folder in Applications you will find the "Install plugin tool" for those with an installer. Just follow the same procedure described earlier for installing AudioPort Host. Some installers will place manuals in the Documents subfolder. Then there's the VSTplugins subfolder where you should copy those without an installer. You can even drop them whilst plugwire is already running.
Setting it up with your DAW:
On a track you want to process consider the Wormhole2 AU and AudioPort AU plugins as the IN and OUT pair of an insert unit, as you can see in the Juce Plug-In Host window from the main screenshot of this post. The actual insert unit is one channel in plugwire on which you load Win VST plugins.
Wormhole2 AU sends audio to plugwire using streaming over network and AudioPort AU fetches the processed audio from plugwire in the same manner. Obviously there's no actual streaming over a physical network, but the concept is exactly what makes my setup completely different from any other solution out there in that we can use simultaneously 16 independent plugwire stereo channels.
Very importantly the first thing to do before starting plugwire is load a pair of Wormhole2 AU and AudioPort AU on every track you want to process.
(However, unless you need to process more tracks it won't matter in which order you start your DAW and plugwire if you already have saved projects to load).
Now you can start plugwire then in your DAW connect to 127.0.0.1 all the AudioPort AU instances you've loaded making sure you start with selecting channel 1+2 as in the screencap then choose for each the next unused channel from the list of channels.
Load the default plugwire project in AudioPort Host and finally in your DAW choose in the Wormhole2 AU instances the corresponding numbered channels. In AudioPort Host double-click on the energyXT module and you're good to go.
You can MIDI map in energyXT all your plugins' parameters. Check the IAC Driver part in the Win VST instruments section below. Same goes for a controller if you use one.
Bouncing/freezing:
The only way I would recommend for any DAW is to arm a new track and record the processing that takes place in plugwire. If you won't need the original tracks anymore it's important to record starting with the track assigned to the last used plugwire channel, then the previous and so on. I'll explain why in the notes section below. For Ableton Live users there is a way though of using its freeze feature which I could append to this tutorial later on if requested. It's mostly based on my 1st post (direct mode).
Important notes:
The AudioPort AU instance connected to 1+2 must be connected at all times otherwise the other channels will be unusable even if they are connected. So make sure you don't unload it or you don't delete any track which contains it. Also make sure before any recording that in this particular AudioPort AU instance (1+2) you click Disconnect then Connect to get rid of any latency. In real-time if you need click Disconnect/Connect as often as you feel the tracks are out of sync.
Never hit Save in AudioPort Host because correct saving is not possible whilst energyXT is in demo mode. It will actually save, but unfortunately rewrite the default plugwire project in that you will end up with an empty one. After you buy a license for energyXT, I strongly recommend though saving your projects from within energyXT and not AudioPort Host, otherwise plugwire would most probably crash at loading those projects.
Don't expect every single Win VST plugin to work, few might randomly crash plugwire like some of the included good old Eric Beam plugins. I'm very confident however that the vast majority of Win VST plugins out there should work flawlessly. Tempo syncing plugins to your DAW is not possible (i.e. Glitch) but you can try the energyXT's transport.
Plugwire is beerware, if you need the "pro" version you see in the quick video demo below with up to 16 stereo channels, please click the Donate button on this blog and I'll get back to you. You will also need the AudioPort Universal bundle (trial or bought) and if you want to save your setups, a license for energyXT.
Quick video demo:
Win VST instruments:
For instruments we won't be needing the Wormhole2 AU plugin. Just the AudioPort AU and for sequencing the IAC Driver: "Device is online" checked in Utilities/Audio MIDI Setup/MIDI Studio/IAC Driver Properties.
Start plugwire then in your DAW set your MIDI track's output to IAC Driver Bus 1. Open an instance of AudioPort AU on an empty audio track where to fetch your Win VST instrument's audio output and connect it to 127.0.0.1. In AudioPort Host load the default plugwire project, right-click on the energyXT module to make sure in MIDI devices Bus 1 is selected then double-click on the energyXT module.
In the energyXT window click right next to the Open button then New/Empty project. Drag the bottom right corner of the energyXT's window and you should see 2 modules: Master In and Master Out. Right-click in that area and choose your instrument from the plugins list. Make sure its MIDI input is connected to the Master In module and its audio output to Master Out. Now you should be able to play, record and MIDI map your instrument.
Credits and thanks:
doh123, CodeWeavers, XT Software, plasq, Raw Material Software, Audio Impressions, Eric Beam, fandango, Oxygen Team, Binassmax, Evermor Design, rekkerd, Create Digital Music, Variety of Sound, Synthtopia, MacMusic, VST Cafe



Hey thanks for taking the time to explain in detail.
ReplyDeleteI just find a little difficult to understand the setup with DAW.
Would you tell me where exactly load each of those 3 plugins?
Thanks in advance.
Say you have some audio track you want to process with Win VST plugs. Before starting the plugwire app, in your DAW you load on that track first Wormhole2 AU and then AudioPort AU as you would normally load plugs, one right after the other.
DeleteThe audio signal enters Wormhole2 AU which passes it outside your DAW to plugwire then AudioPort AU fetches it back from plugwire.
Start plugwire, then connect the AudioPort AU to 127.0.0.1, channel 1+2. Now load in AudioPort Host the default plugwire project you see in the list of recently opened files. Focus back on your DAW and in Wormhole2 AU choose in the list of channels 01+02. Now you should hear your track.
Go back to AudioPort Host and double-click on the energyXT module and a mixer would pop-up. There is where you load your Win VST plugins, by clicking on the "1" button.
We can do this for up to 16 stereo tracks simultaneously so we are actually able to mix in real-time with Win plugs as well. There you go, cheers!
if I work this function in pro tools? OSx10.6.8? please answer :)
DeleteVST to RTAS Adapter
Deletethanks but so difficult for load VST and looks like only in AU host? not VST host like Cubase or Nuendo?
ReplyDeleteVery good point. "AudioPort Plug-in Setup MAC" installs AudioPort VST as well. Unpack Wormhole2 and put Wormhole2.vst in /Library/Audio/Plug-Ins/VST. Now you're good to go.
DeleteFurthermore, for any x64 DAW/VST host you can then use jBridgeM
DeleteHmmmm..... I get to Quick test in Juce plug in host: "then scan your plug ins as shown on the left" - I don't know if someones update the software but there isn't a scan function nor even an available plug in list to check for an options box.
ReplyDeleteIn Options you should click first on "Edit the list of available plug-ins..."
DeleteHi,
ReplyDeleteThanx for this great tip, but somehow Plugwire doesn't seem tot connect to the Audioport Plug-in in Logic... First, Audioport Plug-in connects to 127.1.1.1 instead of 127.0.0.1, after changing back to 127.0.0.1 'Open recent files' is greyed out in Plugwire, saying 'Please connect to a remote host' (I'm assuming that means audioportAU?)
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Thanx, Gr.Dries
Unfortunately, I can't help you with Logic. Can you try with another DAW?
DeleteI got exactly the same problem with Logic Express 8 on Lion (10.7.5). Testing with JUCE Plugin Host worked great, but when I insert the AudioPort plug-in in a channel in Logic, the pre-defined IP address is always 127.1.1.1. Even if I enter 127.0.0.1 manually, it's impossible to establish a connection to the AudioPort Host application. Logic seems to block the local network connection somehow.
DeleteIn Ableton Live 8 i was able to connect the AudioPort plug-in with the host but i couldn't get Wormhole2 to work, as both the VST and AU version of the plug-in always cause Live to freeze completely.
So this is the first confirmation of functionality with Lion.
DeleteWith some problems, the biggest one, it doesn't work with Logic but I need more confirmations. If it really doesn't work or you actually need to set Logic up differently with it.
The second problem, Wormhole doesn't work with Live 8 on Lion but I need more confirmations on this too. At least you can use the instruments part.
Unless it's already saved like that in some project as with the quick test, you have to enter 127.0.0.1 manually over de default 127.1.1.1
Okay, I wasn't sure about 127.1.1.1 being the default setting. It was just confusing me a little bit...
DeleteI did some further testing today and with Ardour and Reaper everything seems to work quite stable on Lion! I still couldn't get it to work in Logic but I came up with a workaround: I set up a filter graph in JUCE which consists of an instance of the AudioPort plug-in which picks up the audio stream from the host in plugwire and an instance of Wormhole2 which sends this stream back to Logic. This isn't really an elegant solution as it requires two more instances of Wormhole2 for every channel you want to process, but at least it works for the moment... ;)
Thanks for feedback! I'm confident there must be an easier way with Logic, for it to work as it's supposed to work, maybe some more experienced Logic users will figure it out. Cheers!
DeleteThis is quite complicated. Since it's such an important topic, you should consider making a video walkthrough. I am stuck at the part where it says "File/Open plugwire.filtergraph provided in quicktest.zip, double-click on AUAudioFilePlayer module, load some audio file, check Loop, Click the Play button and leave that window open."
ReplyDeletejust confused
Where are you stuck more exactly? I'll be happy to post a video made by users.
DeleteSo I may be stuck at the same point...File/Open plugwire.filtergraph...open in Plugwire I'm assuming...except that File/Open is grayed out and reads 'Please Connect to a remote host"...everything was going so well...
DeleteHope you can help at this point...
fyi, I think this is fantastic and I am very excited to get it working!
No, File/Open in Juce Plug-in Host. Cheers!
DeleteHi, I am following your steps to the T.. but now when I open the energyXT in AudioPort Host, it opens a blank xt window, unlike the one in your photo with the 01+02 mixers. So I am not getting any audio :(
ReplyDeleteThe weird thing is it worked the first time it opened and looked just like yours.. I could even play the piano sample.. PLEASE HELP!!
Delete the plugwire folder and start over. Make sure this time you never click Save in AudioPort Host. Please read the "Important limitations" section more carefully
DeleteIs there a way to load a simple DDL plugin, I tried droping them into the "Eric Beam" folder, but they wont show up in plugwire
ReplyDeleteWhich plugins?
DeleteSorry, a dll plugin like "retro delay" for example, thanks!
DeleteIf it's "retro delay" from e-phonic, I'm just looking at it in plugwire. Just drop the dll file in the VSTplugins folder, other than that I can't help you sorry
DeleteHow about dBlue's Glitch?
ReplyDeleteGlitch works, just click Disable Transport. Please don't expect me to test every plugin out there. Thanks
DeleteWow, every industry pro I know has seen this, ground breaking stuff
ReplyDeleteHaving a bit of trouble loading my own plugin effects, most are not exe files
I tried deleting the Eric Beam folder inside the plugwire folder, but it is still showing up
is it possible that the vstplugin folder is being read somewhere else on the computer?
If it's deleted it definitely shouldn't show up, I don't really get what you mean.
DeleteHi,
ReplyDeleteAbsolutly love this, works great. Is there a way to synch to your hosts BPM, or type in the bpm in XT or Audioport?
Cheers
Thanks. See the important notes section.
DeleteHi There , amazing work! wanted to ask you how you installed EnergyXT and how i could go about reinstalling a legit version of 2.5 so I could save.... thanks in advance:))
ReplyDeleteHappy New Year!
The license you bought for 2.5 should work for 1.4.1 as well.
DeleteI can confirm Mountain Lion (8.2) MacBook Air mid 2012 compatibility with Live 8.3.4. It gives me 28ms delay compared to dry signal. I have fiddled with the wormhole settings (sync/latency) and once i got it to 14ms, but i could not recreate it reliably. It also sometimes drops connection, also when switching WiFi on/off (if anyone would want to do that while producing :) )
ReplyDeleteThanks for your feedback! So Wormhole freezes Live 8 on Lion according to Rob but it works with Live 8 on ML, that's odd.
DeleteClicking Disconnect/Connect in the 1+2 AudioPort AU instance before any recording or in case of any other problem is what I strongly recommend. Fiddling with Wormhole's settings won't have any major effect
I finally got running with Logic Express 8 and Live 8 too. Now I can confirm full functionality on Lion as well!
ReplyDeleteThanks for your great work in putting together plugwire. This is by far the most convenient solution for running Win VSTs on Mac I came across! ;)
Cheers!
DeleteHi Rob, Can you explain to us how have you done it to make it work with Logic?
DeleteI'm running Ableton Live 8 and I'm wondering, does this process only work with fx vsts? Because I managed to get Image Line's Harmor synth running. Now I have a few questions:
ReplyDelete1) Does it matter if I do this on an Audio Track or a MIDI Track?
2) On a track in Ableton, I put wormhole au, then audioport au. I opened plugwire, connected audioport au to 127.0.0.1, went to plugwire to load the file but the 'open' option was greyed out. Help please?
Otherwise this seems to work really well ! thanks bro :)
For instruments only in Live, put the External instrument device on a MIDi track, set its MIDI output to IAC, then load AudioPort next to it and connect it to 127.0.0.1
Deleteat first, thank you for this description, but it should be more useful this also translate into german language e.g.
ReplyDeletedo you've positive experiences loading and using Pluggo, Mode, Hipno vsti,vst (cycling74.com) by using this tool? (for information: of course at this time I've load the trial_vers of audioport - installed in SL 10.6.8)
thanks and regards
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DeleteHello,I found out the way to use with Logic,The tip is the Audio track have to put some audio (something or dummy),and just play it,then click the connect,the host will be connected.
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